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Sabtu, 24 Mei 2008

WE SHOULD NOT BLAME GLOBAL WARMING ON HUMAN AND THUS SHOULD NOT DO KYOTO PROTOCOL AGREEMENT FOR IT IS NOT THE BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH GLOBAL WARMING

Pro or Con?
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Is this mainly human cause or nature?


Ngupil itu Indah said
Pro:
SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE ASPECTS:
For all this time we only know that carbon dioxide is the greenhouse gas that has been being the major cause of global warming. But do you know that actually there are several kinds of greenhouse gas in our atmosphere other than carbon dioxide, well they are namely; methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), CFC, and water vapor that produced by both human and nature.

Now, do you know that among those greenhouse gasses, the percentage of water vapor that produced by nature in our atmosphere is 95%, meanwhile the percentage of other greenhouse gasses that produced by man and nature is only 5%, it is include carbon dioxide and other gases that produced by man,

now the question is, from that 5%, how big is actually the percentage of greenhouse gasses that originally produced by man?! Well, surprisingly, different to what most people believe for all this time, actually the percentage of greenhouse gasses including carbon dioxide that originally produced by man is only, 0, 28%.

A very small percentage that almost undetectable to the contribution of global warming, it is like adding a grain of salt into the ocean, it is like nothing.

But what make we have bigger percentage of water vapor in our atmosphere today than the percentage of water vapor in the past?
well,based on the website of NASA we found that it is actually the increasing of sunspot activity that heating up the ocean and increasing the percentage of water vapor in our atmosphere.

The other evidence that proof that actually today global warming is caused by nature-in this case is the increasing of sunspot activity-is, even now on several planets like Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, even Pluto, global warming is also happening, it can be seen from the decreasing of ice cap volume on both pole of Mars, the only similarity on the cause of global warming on those planets and earth is only one, it is the sun. All of planets in our solar system are now experiencing global warming, and it is because of the increasing of sunspot activity, not because of human, you can’t say that the cause of the decreasing of ice cap volume on Mars is human, you can’t say that the cause of the increasing temperature on Pluto is also because of human emission, that would be so ridiculous.

The effect of this makes us like sitting in the sauna, where the amount of water vapor in our atmosphere is simultaneously added by the extreme evaporation of ocean water that being heated up by the increasing of sunspot activity. So, it would be very ridiculous if we blame the cause of global warming on human emission which its percentage is very small, only 0, 28% and almost undetectable compared to the water vapor percentage that is very big , 95%.

So once again, global warming is caused by nature, caused by the increasing of sunspot activity that heating up the entire ocean and causing an extreme evaporation and accumulating our atmosphere with water vapor greenhouse gas.

So now do you still think that the implementation of Kyoto protocol which just want to reduce human emission that only 0, 28% is able to make our world colder in the future, the contra side has to proof that by implementing Kyoto protocol that not even try to reduce the 95 % of water vapor could make world temperature colder in the future.

The last thing is the contra side has to proof that Kyoto protocol would able to reduce the main effect of global warming, which is the sun. they have to proof that Kyoto protocol would able to reduce the increasing of sunspot activity that also heating up not just earth but also the entire planets in our solar system today, because the main cause of global warming is the sun. It is what the Kyoto protocol want, isn’t it, to reduce the main cause of global warming?!
sent on: 2008 Mei 25 05:59


Putri Ayu Islamiati said
Contra:
Rebuttal for teguh:
Water vapors do not have a "forcing" effect on climate change like human greenhouse gases:
While water is the most prominent greenhouse gas, it does not have a "forcing" effect on climate change. Because water vapor is actually natural substance in our atmosphere, so it is ridiculous to blame on global warming on water vapor, if we try to reduce water vapor, the cycle of weather on earth will not exist. Because water vapor is the main substance that create weather cycle on our earth, that’s is why we can’t reduce it because we need it, different to carbon dioxide or other human emission.

Solar effects:
Does the sun have no role in global warming or is it small compared to human-causes? Yes, the role of sun is actually very small compared to human cause.
• Sun-spot variation has a "negligible impact" on global climate change:
• "Don't Blame Sun for Global Warming, Study Says". National Geographic. September 13, 2006 - "But sunspot-driven changes to the sun's power are simply too small to account for the climatic changes observed in historical data from the 17th century to the present, research suggests. The difference in brightness between the high point of a sunspot cycle and its low point is less than 0.1 percent of the sun's total output. "If you run that back in time to the 17th century using sunspot records, you'll find that this amplitude variance is negligible for climate"'...according to Solar astronomer Peter Foukal of Heliophysics, Inc.
• In 2006, Peter Foukal and other researchers from the United States, Germany, and Switzerland found no net increase of solar brightness over the last thousand years. Solar cycles lead to a small increase of 0.07% in brightness over the last 30 years. This effect is far too small to contribute significantly to global warming.
• A paper by Mike Lockwood and Claus Fröhlich found no relation between global warming and solar radiation since 1985.
• National Center for Atmospheric Research (2006-09-14). Changes in Solar Brightness Too Weak to Explain Global Warming.
• Warming on mars may not be due to the sun
• Any warming on mars does not prove that the sun is driving Earth's climate change

Natural warming cycle:
Even if we were in a natural warming cycle, the rate of warming currently is many times faster than any rate of warming in the historical record. Even if humans are not actually the "chief" cause of global warming, there is little dispute that we play some role, due to our emissions of greenhouse gases, which contribute to the warming of the globe. As such, the Kyoto Protocol is an important tool in the fight against human-caused greenhouse gas emissions and global warming.

Are human-greenhouse gas emissions capable of causing global warming? Yes
• Human greenhouse gas emissions have a clear "greenhouse" warming effect: Greenhouse gases are named as such because they have a "greenhouse effect" in the atmosphere, allowing sunlight to enter the earth's atmosphere but trapping a percentage of the radiation that would otherwise be reflected back into space. The trapped radiation emits added heat into the Earth's atmosphere with the result being "global warming". The "greenhouse effect" is not disputed.
• Humans have increased significantly the number of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, adding substantially to the "greenhouse effect" Levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere have increased substantially through the industrial revolution. Sources cite that humans have contributed roughly 10 to 30 percent of the greenhouse gases that are currently in the atmosphere since large-scale industrialization began around 150 years ago. This substantial increase due to humans is certainly capable of producing the global warming effects we are seeing today. One of the reasons that the Earth's atmosphere is so vulnerable to such a substantial increase in atmospheric greenhouse gases is that it is so thin.

Is there a clear warming trend that shows human cause?
The correlation in the acceleration of greenhouse gas emissions and the acceleration of global warming outlines the causal relationship between humans and climate change. This is not to say that humans are necessarily wholly responsible for global warming, and this position acknowledges (typically) some natural causes of global warming. But, it is argued that humans have added dramatically to the acceleration of global warming far beyond what would have occurred naturally.

Do on-the-ground effects demonstrate today's warming is mainly human-caused?
• Ocean layers have warmed in a manner that indicates human-causes of global warming
• atmosphere that getting thinner show human cause on global warming
• Glacier melting globally demonstrates human-causes of global warming
• The melting of the arctic ice caps has increased dramatically with human emissions
• Greenland ice-caps are melting at an accelerating rate
• Natural catastrophic events, such as hurricanes, have increased substantially with human greenhouse gases
• Increase in atmospheric moisture is tied to human emissions
• The atmosphere has responded as expected to human-induced global warming – Satellite temperature measurements show that tropospheric temperatures are increasing with "rates similar to those of the surface temperature," leading the IPCC to conclude that this discrepancy is reconciled.
• Spatial patterns of heat-trappings are concentrated around populated areas, indicating human causes

Kyoto protocol mechanism:
In short, Kyoto protocol is implementing the system of carbon tax, which means every nation, people, or factories that emit green house gases should pay tax which called carbon tax.
Carbon tax is implemented for air plane travel, vehicle, factories, etc. The limitation of the tax is discussed and decided through meeting with all of nations that have signed the Kyoto protocol.
The fund from the tax will be used and organized by United nations and all bodies under UN that related to Kyoto protocol project to develop environmental friendly technologies to reduce human emission gradually. Technology like; sun panel, bio fuel, wind power plant, hydro power plant, geo-thermal power plant.
By implementing this system, it is expected that within 50 years ahead, the emission of human greenhouse gases would have been reduced significantly.
sent on: 2008 Mei 26 23:46


Ngupil Itu indah said
PRO:
Rebuttal for Putri:
1st Putri said that it is ridiculous to blame global warming on water vapor and if we try to reduce water vapor, the cycle of weather on earth will not exist. Because water vapor is the main substance that create weather cycle on our earth, that’s is why we can’t reduce it because we need it.
One thing that i'd like to ask to Putri,did i say anything about trying to reduce water vapor as the best solution that i believe able to reduce global warming? i was saying that just to remind you that this whole reducing global warming thing is can't be implemented,especially when you start it with the wrong move,like trying to reduce human emition that only 0,28%. it won't do any good to solve this problem. And let me emphasize one more time to Putri,I was not saying that the main cause of global warming is water vapor,i said that the main cause of this problem is, the sun.so what kyoto protocol can do about that?!

2nd Putri also said that Warming on mars may not be due to the sun and any warming on mars does not prove that the sun is driving Earth's climate change.
we'll you know what putri?!if it was not the sun that cause the warming on Mars and on several planets in our solar system at the same time,then what?human emition? you can not even explain the clear reason of why such warming could also happen on those planets. let me make this clear again.the only similar factor that could cause the warming on earth and on those planets at the same time is only sun.that's the only logical explanation.I challenge you if you have any better explanation of the cause of these things (which i believe you don't).

3rd Putri said again that Even if we were in a natural warming cycle, the rate of warming currently is many times faster than any rate of warming in the historical record. Even if humans are not actually the "chief" cause of global warming, there is little dispute that we play some role, due to our emissions of greenhouse gases, which contribute to the warming of the globe. As such, the Kyoto Protocol is an important tool in the fight against human-caused greenhouse gas emissions and global warming.
Putri,it seems you didn't catch my explanation well,the contribution of human to global warming is very small,only 0,28%, it is nothing compared to greenhouse gases that produced by nature (which is 97% water vapor that caused by sun increasing activity).and ow..only for your knowledge,the percentage of carbon dioxide that produced by volcano in one day is way bigger than the percentage of CO2 that produced by all human in one year.could you grab the picture?hope so,human greenhouse gases production is very tiny compared to nature greenhouse gases production.that's why every effort that kyoto protocol do to reduce human emition in hope it would be able reduce global warming is very miss calculated and would just such a big waste of every nation financial and other valuable resources that actually could be directed to support other solution mechanism that better than kyoto protocol,which i'm going to explain here.

4th Putri said that these are the evidences of human green house gases effect on earth:
- Ocean layers have warmed in a manner that indicates human-causes of global warming
- atmosphere that getting thinner show human cause on global warming
- Glacier melting globally demonstrates human-causes of global warming
- The melting of the arctic ice caps has increased dramatically with human emissions
- Greenland ice-caps are melting at an accelerating rate
- Natural catastrophic events, such as hurricanes, have increased substantially with human greenhouse gases
-Increase in atmospheric moisture is tied to human emissions
Now, don't you think that i could use Putri's evidence here to prove that actually those are the effect of global warming that caused by the increasing of sun activity?!what i see here is Putri is only trying to connect human increase of CO2 (which means nothing to the contribution of global warming) with those effect of global warming (which actually caused by nature,by sun!)

5th Putri said that The fund from the tax of kyoto protocol implementation will be used and organized by United nations and all bodies under UN that related to Kyoto protocol project to develop environmental friendly technologies to reduce human emission gradually. Technology like; sun panel, bio fuel, wind power plant, hydro power plant, geo-thermal power plant. By implementing this system, it is expected that within 50 years ahead, the emission of human greenhouse gases would have been reduced significantly.
This is one more time that i say a very useless effort in the hope of trying to reduce global warming.

Now,if kyoto protocol is not the best way to deal with global warming,then what is the best way to deal with it?this is what i'm going to explain here.

1st the solution mechanism to deal with global warming and why this solution is feasible to be conducted. and 2nd the future implication of this solution:

Back to the question, how we are going to deal with it. Can we stop it? can we reduce it? The answer is no, we can’t. There’s no way we can stop it. There’s no way we can stop the sun from keep increasing its activity. Our technology is not that advance, we are not alien. The idea of fighting or even stopping global warming is the most ridiculous and irresponsible idea ever in the history of human life.

Once again, like I said before, the cycle of global warming and ice age happens every 10.000 years, and the main cause is the increasing or the decreasing of sunspot activity. The changing of climate from ice age to warming period or from warming period to ice age, is very natural, it is just the same like the changing of season from winter to summer or summer to fall or from fall to winter again. It is very natural and it is unstoppable. You can’t stop winter or summer from coming, the only thing that you can do is to prepare yourself to adapt with the changing itself, example by preparing warm jacket if you are going to have winter or preparing air conditioner in your house if you are going to have summer. But how about the changing of climate itself, especially in this global warming period, what can we do to prepare our self to adapt with it, since there’s no way we can make a technology to stop the increasing of sunspot activity.

The answer is to adapt with the changing of this climate itself, just the same like we adapt with the changing of season. Once again, we are not saying that we do not want to do anything to survive from global warming, we do, want to survive from global warming, and the only way is to prepare all of our knowledge and technology to make a preparation to face the extreme change of global warming in the future, because once again, we can’t stop global warming, because the main cause of global warming is the sun, there’s no way we block the sun to make global warming stop. We have to prepare ourselves to adapt with it.

Now the question is, how to adapt with it, we have to certainly develop all requirements of our daily basic necessity to fit with the condition of extreme hot temperature in the future:

1st starting from now we have to conduct a research to develop a new variety of all plants that we have now, a new variety of plant that able to live the extreme condition where there is lack of water and able to live in hot temperature weather. Especially for plants that we consume in our daily life like; corn, wheat, paddy, and of course fruit and vegetable. We have to conduct a research to develop these kinds of plants that able to grow well in the future where the global temperature will be hotter than the temperature that we have now. We have succeeded in developing a better variety of plants like paddy or corn which its quality is better than the corn or paddy that we have 10 years ago. That is why it would be also feasible to develop a new variety of plants that can grow in the situation of lack of water and in the hotter temperature.

2nd starting from now we have to collect the best seeds of plants from all over the world and save them in the seed bank in the Norway, a country that closest to the North Pole. In fact United Nation has been doing this since several years ago, to save the seeds of all of the best plants in all over the world. Because in 30 to 50 years from now the earth temperature will be much hotter than the temperature that we have now. UN afraid that it will make many of species of plants on earth will face extinction, that’s why, before that happen, UN have to save all of these seeds, so that in the future, when most of plants will face extinction, UN still have these seeds to be planted again in highly controlled environment, so that in the future, human won’t face hunger because of the lacking of plants, vegetable, or fruit to be eaten. We got this information from united nation website

3rd starting from now we have to develop a better water storage, irrigation, and drainage system, that can give a maximum supply of water for us in the future where the hotter temperature normally will evaporate most of natural water supply in all over the world. By doing this, it is expected in the future we won’t face extreme lack of water.

4th starting from now, every nation have to increase their cooperation to make the whole nations in the world ready to face the extreme temperature in the future. Example we can learn a lot from countries in the middle east, like Saudi Arabia, on how to grow plants in an extreme condition where there’s lack of water and where the temperature is very hot, we know that in the middle east the temperature is very hot around 40 to 50 degree Celcius, but Saudi Arabia able to grow plants in its country, it means Saudi Arabia already has a sophisticated water storage and water irrigation system and also has developed a better variety of plants that able to make Saudi Arabia grows plants in there.

Feasibility
now please consider,those solution mechanisms of adaptation are actually more make sense and more rational to deal with the effect of extreme heat of global warming in the future and would save more financial budget of every nation in the world than trying to do the agreement of Kyoto protocol that want to reduce the effect of global warming by trying to reduce only human emission, which we have already explained to you, is actually would be useless, because the main cause of global warming is not human, but it is nature, it is the sun, the main cause of global warming, and since we can’t stop or block the sun, that’s why the only rational way to deal with it, is to make our best preparation to deal with it, to adapt with the changing itself that we are going to face in the future.

Now let's talk about the Bad future implication if we don’t start preparing ourselves to adapt and keep on doing Kyoto protocol

all of this mechanism of adaptation is more feasible and more rational to be conducted compared to Kyoto protocol proposal, it is better than wasting our money and effort to uselessly trying to stop the increasing of earth temperature that actually caused by sun activity, if the contra side seriously want to stop it, then the contra side has to stop the current increasing activity of sun, which every normal people will say impossible.

That is why the most rational way to deal with global warming in the future is by adaptation like I’ve already explained to you. If you insist to do this Kyoto protocol, every country, especially countries with higher emission will have to spend most of their national budget just to pay carbon taxes, how about the budget purposed for their citizen if these countries have to spend most of their budget just to support the agreement of Kyoto protocol which has already proven to be useless?! And for what? For nothing! Remember the purpose of Kyoto protocol is just want to reduce all of human greenhouse gases emission, which actually only 0, 28%. But after succeeded reducing these emissions in the future then what? Will this make the temperature in the future colder? Hell, no! because the 95% of water vapor is still there, Kyoto protocol never even care about this 95% water vapor, Kyoto protocol never even care about the sun that heating up the entire ocean and make the percentage of water vapor increased, Kyoto protocol never even care about the evidence that ice cap on mars is also decreasing which is a very strong evidence that proof that actually, global warming is caused by nature. Not by human.! So, from the beginning until the end i still stand to my belief that global warming that caused by human is just a myth. A widely held but false belief that is being exaggerated.
sent on: 2008 Juni 10 02:42




4 komentar:

Ngupil Itu indah mengatakan...

SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE ASPECTS:
For all this time we only know that carbon dioxide is the greenhouse gas that has been being the major cause of global warming. But do you know that actually there are several kinds of greenhouse gas in our atmosphere other than carbon dioxide, well they are namely; methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), CFC, and water vapor that produced by both human and nature.

Now, do you know that among those greenhouse gasses, the percentage of water vapor that produced by nature in our atmosphere is 95%, meanwhile the percentage of other greenhouse gasses that produced by man and nature is only 5%, it is include carbon dioxide and other gases that produced by man,

now the question is, from that 5%, how big is actually the percentage of greenhouse gasses that originally produced by man?! Well, surprisingly, different to what most people believe for all this time, actually the percentage of greenhouse gasses including carbon dioxide that originally produced by man is only, 0, 28%.

A very small percentage that almost undetectable to the contribution of global warming, it is like adding a grain of salt into the ocean, it is like nothing.

But what make we have bigger percentage of water vapor in our atmosphere today than the percentage of water vapor in the past?
well,based on the website of NASA we found that it is actually the increasing of sunspot activity that heating up the ocean and increasing the percentage of water vapor in our atmosphere.

The other evidence that proof that actually today global warming is caused by nature-in this case is the increasing of sunspot activity-is, even now on several planets like Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, even Pluto, global warming is also happening, it can be seen from the decreasing of ice cap volume on both pole of Mars, the only similarity on the cause of global warming on those planets and earth is only one, it is the sun. All of planets in our solar system are now experiencing global warming, and it is because of the increasing of sunspot activity, not because of human, you can’t say that the cause of the decreasing of ice cap volume on Mars is human, you can’t say that the cause of the increasing temperature on Pluto is also because of human emission, that would be so ridiculous.

The effect of this makes us like sitting in the sauna, where the amount of water vapor in our atmosphere is simultaneously added by the extreme evaporation of ocean water that being heated up by the increasing of sunspot activity. So, it would be very ridiculous if we blame the cause of global warming on human emission which its percentage is very small, only 0, 28% and almost undetectable compared to the water vapor percentage that is very big , 95%.

So once again, global warming is caused by nature, caused by the increasing of sunspot activity that heating up the entire ocean and causing an extreme evaporation and accumulating our atmosphere with water vapor greenhouse gas.

So now do you still think that the implementation of Kyoto protocol which just want to reduce human emission that only 0, 28% is able to make our world colder in the future, the contra side has to proof that by implementing Kyoto protocol that not even try to reduce the 95 % of water vapor could make world temperature colder in the future.

The last thing is the contra side has to proof that Kyoto protocol would able to reduce the main effect of global warming, which is the sun. they have to proof that Kyoto protocol would able to reduce the increasing of sunspot activity that also heating up not just earth but also the entire planets in our solar system today, because the main cause of global warming is the sun. It is what the Kyoto protocol want, isn’t it, to reduce the main cause of global warming?!

Ngupil Itu indah mengatakan...

oww..almost forget..i'm on the pro side..
:)

Putri Ayu Islamiati mengatakan...

Rebuttal for teguh:
Water vapors do not have a "forcing" effect on climate change like human greenhouse gases:
While water is the most prominent greenhouse gas, it does not have a "forcing" effect on climate change. Because water vapor is actually natural substance in our atmosphere, so it is ridiculous to blame on global warming on water vapor, if we try to reduce water vapor, the cycle of weather on earth will not exist. Because water vapor is the main substance that create weather cycle on our earth, that’s is why we can’t reduce it because we need it, different to carbon dioxide or other human emission.

Solar effects:
Does the sun have no role in global warming or is it small compared to human-causes? Yes, the role of sun is actually very small compared to human cause.
• Sun-spot variation has a "negligible impact" on global climate change:
• "Don't Blame Sun for Global Warming, Study Says". National Geographic. September 13, 2006 - "But sunspot-driven changes to the sun's power are simply too small to account for the climatic changes observed in historical data from the 17th century to the present, research suggests. The difference in brightness between the high point of a sunspot cycle and its low point is less than 0.1 percent of the sun's total output. "If you run that back in time to the 17th century using sunspot records, you'll find that this amplitude variance is negligible for climate"'...according to Solar astronomer Peter Foukal of Heliophysics, Inc.
• In 2006, Peter Foukal and other researchers from the United States, Germany, and Switzerland found no net increase of solar brightness over the last thousand years. Solar cycles lead to a small increase of 0.07% in brightness over the last 30 years. This effect is far too small to contribute significantly to global warming.
• A paper by Mike Lockwood and Claus Fröhlich found no relation between global warming and solar radiation since 1985.
• National Center for Atmospheric Research (2006-09-14). Changes in Solar Brightness Too Weak to Explain Global Warming.
• Warming on mars may not be due to the sun
• Any warming on mars does not prove that the sun is driving Earth's climate change

Natural warming cycle:
Even if we were in a natural warming cycle, the rate of warming currently is many times faster than any rate of warming in the historical record. Even if humans are not actually the "chief" cause of global warming, there is little dispute that we play some role, due to our emissions of greenhouse gases, which contribute to the warming of the globe. As such, the Kyoto Protocol is an important tool in the fight against human-caused greenhouse gas emissions and global warming.

Are human-greenhouse gas emissions capable of causing global warming? Yes
• Human greenhouse gas emissions have a clear "greenhouse" warming effect: Greenhouse gases are named as such because they have a "greenhouse effect" in the atmosphere, allowing sunlight to enter the earth's atmosphere but trapping a percentage of the radiation that would otherwise be reflected back into space. The trapped radiation emits added heat into the Earth's atmosphere with the result being "global warming". The "greenhouse effect" is not disputed.
• Humans have increased significantly the number of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, adding substantially to the "greenhouse effect" Levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere have increased substantially through the industrial revolution. Sources cite that humans have contributed roughly 10 to 30 percent of the greenhouse gases that are currently in the atmosphere since large-scale industrialization began around 150 years ago. This substantial increase due to humans is certainly capable of producing the global warming effects we are seeing today. One of the reasons that the Earth's atmosphere is so vulnerable to such a substantial increase in atmospheric greenhouse gases is that it is so thin.

Is there a clear warming trend that shows human cause?
The correlation in the acceleration of greenhouse gas emissions and the acceleration of global warming outlines the causal relationship between humans and climate change. This is not to say that humans are necessarily wholly responsible for global warming, and this position acknowledges (typically) some natural causes of global warming. But, it is argued that humans have added dramatically to the acceleration of global warming far beyond what would have occurred naturally.

Do on-the-ground effects demonstrate today's warming is mainly human-caused?
• Ocean layers have warmed in a manner that indicates human-causes of global warming
• atmosphere that getting thinner show human cause on global warming
• Glacier melting globally demonstrates human-causes of global warming
• The melting of the arctic ice caps has increased dramatically with human emissions
• Greenland ice-caps are melting at an accelerating rate
• Natural catastrophic events, such as hurricanes, have increased substantially with human greenhouse gases
• Increase in atmospheric moisture is tied to human emissions
• The atmosphere has responded as expected to human-induced global warming – Satellite temperature measurements show that tropospheric temperatures are increasing with "rates similar to those of the surface temperature," leading the IPCC to conclude that this discrepancy is reconciled.
• Spatial patterns of heat-trappings are concentrated around populated areas, indicating human causes

Kyoto protocol mechanism:
In short, Kyoto protocol is implementing the system of carbon tax, which means every nation, people, or factories that emit green house gases should pay tax which called carbon tax.
Carbon tax is implemented for air plane travel, vehicle, factories, etc. The limitation of the tax is discussed and decided through meeting with all of nations that have signed the Kyoto protocol.
The fund from the tax will be used and organized by United nations and all bodies under UN that related to Kyoto protocol project to develop environmental friendly technologies to reduce human emission gradually. Technology like; sun panel, bio fuel, wind power plant, hydro power plant, geo-thermal power plant.
By implementing this system, it is expected that within 50 years ahead, the emission of human greenhouse gases would have been reduced significantly.

Ngupil Itu indah mengatakan...

PRO:
Rebuttal for Putri:
1st Putri said that it is ridiculous to blame global warming on water vapor and if we try to reduce water vapor, the cycle of weather on earth will not exist. Because water vapor is the main substance that create weather cycle on our earth, that’s is why we can’t reduce it because we need it.
One thing that i'd like to ask to Putri,did i say anything about trying to reduce water vapor as the best solution that i believe able to reduce global warming? i was saying that just to remind you that this whole reducing global warming thing is can't be implemented,especially when you start it with the wrong move,like trying to reduce human emition that only 0,28%. it won't do any good to solve this problem. And let me emphasize one more time to Putri,I was not saying that the main cause of global warming is water vapor,i said that the main cause of this problem is, the sun.so what kyoto protocol can do about that?!

2nd Putri also said that Warming on mars may not be due to the sun and
any warming on mars does not prove that the sun is driving Earth's climate change.
we'll you know what putri?!if it was not the sun that cause the warming on Mars and on several planets in our solar system at the same time,then what?human emition? you can not even explain the clear reason of why such warming could also happen on those planets. let me make this clear again.the only similar factor that could cause the warming on earth and on those planets at the same time is only sun.that's the only logical explanation.I challenge you if you have any better explanation of the cause of these things (which i believe you don't).

3rd Putri said again that Even if we were in a natural warming cycle, the rate of warming currently is many times faster than any rate of warming in the historical record. Even if humans are not actually the "chief" cause of global warming, there is little dispute that we play some role, due to our emissions of greenhouse gases, which contribute to the warming of the globe. As such, the Kyoto Protocol is an important tool in the fight against human-caused greenhouse gas emissions and global warming.
Putri,it seems you didn't catch my explanation well,the contribution of human to global warming is very small,only 0,28%, it is nothing compared to greenhouse gases that produced by nature (which is 97% water vapor that caused by sun increasing activity).and ow..only for your knowledge,the percentage of carbon dioxide that produced by volcano in one day is way bigger than the percentage of CO2 that produced by all human in one year.could you grab the picture?hope so,human greenhouse gases production is very tiny compared to nature greenhouse gases production.that's why every effort that kyoto protocol do to reduce human emition in hope it would be able reduce global warming is very miss calculated and would just such a big waste of every nation financial and other valuable resources that actually could be directed to support other solution mechanism that better than kyoto protocol,which i'm going to explain here.

4th Putri said that these are the evidences of human green house gases effect on earth:
• Ocean layers have warmed in a manner that indicates human-causes of global warming
• atmosphere that getting thinner show human cause on global warming
• Glacier melting globally demonstrates human-causes of global warming
• The melting of the arctic ice caps has increased dramatically with human emissions
• Greenland ice-caps are melting at an accelerating rate
• Natural catastrophic events, such as hurricanes, have increased substantially with human greenhouse gases
• Increase in atmospheric moisture is tied to human emissions
Now, don't you think that i could use Putri's evidence here to prove that actually those are the effect of global warming that caused by the increasing of sun activity?!what i see here is Putri is only trying to connect human increase of CO2 (which means nothing to the contribution of global warming) with those effect of global warming (which actually caused by nature,by sun!)

5th Putri said that The fund from the tax of kyoto protocol implementation will be used and organized by United nations and all bodies under UN that related to Kyoto protocol project to develop environmental friendly technologies to reduce human emission gradually. Technology like; sun panel, bio fuel, wind power plant, hydro power plant, geo-thermal power plant.
By implementing this system, it is expected that within 50 years ahead, the emission of human greenhouse gases would have been reduced significantly.
This is one more time that i say a very useless effort in the hope of trying to reduce global warming.

Now,if kyoto protocol is not the best way to deal with global warming,then what is the best way to deal with it?this is what i'm going to explain here.

1st the solution mechanism to deal with global warming and why this solution is feasible to be conducted. and 2nd the future implication of this solution:

Back to the question, how we are going to deal with it. Can we stop it? can we reduce it? The answer is no, we can’t. There’s no way we can stop it. There’s no way we can stop the sun from keep increasing its activity. Our technology is not that advance, we are not alien. The idea of fighting or even stopping global warming is the most ridiculous and irresponsible idea ever in the history of human life.

Once again, like I said before, the cycle of global warming and ice age happens every 10.000 years, and the main cause is the increasing or the decreasing of sunspot activity. The changing of climate from ice age to warming period or from warming period to ice age, is very natural, it is just the same like the changing of season from winter to summer or summer to fall or from fall to winter again. It is very natural and it is unstoppable. You can’t stop winter or summer from coming, the only thing that you can do is to prepare yourself to adapt with the changing itself, example by preparing warm jacket if you are going to have winter or preparing air conditioner in your house if you are going to have summer. But how about the changing of climate itself, especially in this global warming period, what can we do to prepare our self to adapt with it, since there’s no way we can make a technology to stop the increasing of sunspot activity.

The answer is to adapt with the changing of this climate itself, just the same like we adapt with the changing of season. Once again, we are not saying that we do not want to do anything to survive from global warming, we do, want to survive from global warming, and the only way is to prepare all of our knowledge and technology to make a preparation to face the extreme change of global warming in the future, because once again, we can’t stop global warming, because the main cause of global warming is the sun, there’s no way we block the sun to make global warming stop. We have to prepare ourselves to adapt with it.

Now the question is, how to adapt with it, we have to certainly develop all requirements of our daily basic necessity to fit with the condition of extreme hot temperature in the future:

1st starting from now we have to conduct a research to develop a new variety of all plants that we have now, a new variety of plant that able to live the extreme condition where there is lack of water and able to live in hot temperature weather. Especially for plants that we consume in our daily life like; corn, wheat, paddy, and of course fruit and vegetable. We have to conduct a research to develop these kinds of plants that able to grow well in the future where the global temperature will be hotter than the temperature that we have now. We have succeeded in developing a better variety of plants like paddy or corn which its quality is better than the corn or paddy that we have 10 years ago. That is why it would be also feasible to develop a new variety of plants that can grow in the situation of lack of water and in the hotter temperature.

2nd starting from now we have to collect the best seeds of plants from all over the world and save them in the seed bank in the Norway, a country that closest to the North Pole. In fact United Nation has been doing this since several years ago, to save the seeds of all of the best plants in all over the world. Because in 30 to 50 years from now the earth temperature will be much hotter than the temperature that we have now. UN afraid that it will make many of species of plants on earth will face extinction, that’s why, before that happen, UN have to save all of these seeds, so that in the future, when most of plants will face extinction, UN still have these seeds to be planted again in highly controlled environment, so that in the future, human won’t face hunger because of the lacking of plants, vegetable, or fruit to be eaten. We got this information from united nation website

3rd starting from now we have to develop a better water storage, irrigation, and drainage system, that can give a maximum supply of water for us in the future where the hotter temperature normally will evaporate most of natural water supply in all over the world. By doing this, it is expected in the future we won’t face extreme lack of water.

4th. starting from now, every nation have to increase their cooperation to make the whole nations in the world ready to face the extreme temperature in the future. Example we can learn a lot from countries in the middle east, like Saudi Arabia, on how to grow plants in an extreme condition where there’s lack of water and where the temperature is very hot, we know that in the middle east the temperature is very hot around 40 to 50 degree Celcius, but Saudi Arabia able to grow plants in its country, it means Saudi Arabia already has a sophisticated water storage and water irrigation system and also has developed a better variety of plants that able to make Saudi Arabia grows plants in there.

Feasibility
now please consider,those solution mechanisms of adaptation are actually more make sense and more rational to deal with the effect of extreme heat of global warming in the future and would save more financial budget of every nation in the world than trying to do the agreement of Kyoto protocol that want to reduce the effect of global warming by trying to reduce only human emission, which we have already explained to you, is actually would be useless, because the main cause of global warming is not human, but it is nature, it is the sun, the main cause of global warming, and since we can’t stop or block the sun, that’s why the only rational way to deal with it, is to make our best preparation to deal with it, to adapt with the changing itself that we are going to face in the future.

Now let's talk about the Bad future implication if we don’t start preparing ourselves to adapt and keep on doing Kyoto protocol

all of this mechanism of adaptation is more feasible and more rational to be conducted compared to Kyoto protocol proposal, it is better than wasting our money and effort to uselessly trying to stop the increasing of earth temperature that actually caused by sun activity, if the contra side seriously want to stop it, then the contra side has to stop the current increasing activity of sun, which every normal people will say impossible.

That is why the most rational way to deal with global warming in the future is by adaptation like I’ve already explained to you. If you insist to do this Kyoto protocol, every country, especially countries with higher emission will have to spend most of their national budget just to pay carbon taxes, how about the budget purposed for their citizen if these countries have to spend most of their budget just to support the agreement of Kyoto protocol which has already proven to be useless?! And for what? For nothing! Remember the purpose of Kyoto protocol is just want to reduce all of human greenhouse gases emission, which actually only 0, 28%. But after succeeded reducing these emissions in the future then what? Will this make the temperature in the future colder? Hell, no! because the 95% of water vapor is still there, Kyoto protocol never even care about this 95% water vapor, Kyoto protocol never even care about the sun that heating up the entire ocean and make the percentage of water vapor increased, Kyoto protocol never even care about the evidence that ice cap on mars is also decreasing which is a very strong evidence that proof that actually, global warming is caused by nature. Not by human.! So, from the beginning until the end i still stand to my belief that global warming that caused by human is just a myth. A widely held but false belief that is being exaggerated.